Saturday, March 30, 2013

The Conversation Darin King Deleted

What follows is a facebook discussion under a post by Justice Minister Darin King that was later deleted.

More jobs; more opportunities; possible power agreement - another excellent day for Newfoundland and Labrador !
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Jodie Riggs It's not much of a consolation to the upwards of two thousand public and government employees, School Board and EAS employees who are not trades people, especially the single parents who are restricted to their rural communities. 
Cecilia Dodge I agree Jodie.
Darin King That number is totally inaccurate, Jodie. Minister Kennedy spoke to that yesterday in the Legislature. It's unfortunate that people are circulating the wrong information as we go through this process.
Jodie Riggs I'm including the EAS offices, the ABE instructors from CNA, as well as spin off layoffs such as childcare providers and economic
Jodie Riggs If you have the exact numbers Darin, I would love to know them.
Jodie Riggs PS Darin, note that I said UPWARDS, and didn't give an exact number.
Mary Mullins i could see closing out some eas offices. or cuting backbut not closing all of them, what is the people going to do.
Lenora Slaney It's a wonderful time to test the theory of duplicating services when all of these people are out of work. EAS is needed more then ever, it's not a time with all of these pending layoffs to close these offices especially when it is not a budget decisio...See More
Cecilia Dodge Well it look like the Tories are on a mission in regard to the 2013 Budget and that is to destroyed our province and to have Newfoundland and Labrador declared a THIRD WORLD PROVINCE NOT A HAVE PROVINCE........ WHICH WILL BE RIGHT UP STEVEN HARPER’S ALLEY
Freeman Legge Some bad when politicians start having hallucinations, because that what is happining to Kennedy, Kent, King and the rest of Dunderdale followers!
Joyce Lee Stacey well you`d never know NL was a have province with all these cut backs and job losses!! I think its time for steven Harper to go!
Jodie Riggs Darin, according to my research, the Job Cuts Breakdown includes the following:
485 core public service layoffs (just over 5% of the total workforce, where half of the positions were permanent) Gov. Boards & agencies will axe another 450 jobs (nearly 200 of those will come from health authorities) another 246 positions currently vacant will remain unfilled. In addition to staffing reductions another 190 were offered early retirement. Yet another 160 cuts are scheduled to come from the Teaching and School Administration…….CNA ABE instructors and the School Boards. Factor in the 226 EAS positions that are to eliminated due to the governments redirecting of funds, the total number thus far is approximately-
485+450+246+190+160+226 = 1757 CONFIRMED LAYOFFS PLUS ???? MORE ???? 
Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the SOCIAL and ECONOMIC RAMIFICATIONS of mass layoffs will know that where there are job losses, there are MORE job losses….. In this case, bumping into other positions, child care providers, building renters, cleaners and other small town business to name but a few…. There is NO WAY to determine actually numbers, but when I said UPWARDS of 2000 affected persons, it was based on FACTS! The bulk of this information came from information that you yourself forwarded to the Facebook and the remainder came from the media, most notably the CBC News. For you to say that “It’s unfortunate that people are circulating the wrong information as we go through this process”, infers that I am either lying or spreading rumors, shows how utterly disrespectful you are to those affected by this PROCESS as you call it, and to myself as a knowledgeable labour market information researcher and analyst through my work experience. It further points out how you utilize effective political tactics by ignoring the comments and concerns addressed and redirecting the stream of conversation back on to me to try and discredit myself as well as changing the subject. 
Now, to address the PROCESS, as you call it……This process will be detrimental to countless hardworking Newfoundlanders, the majority who are NOT trades people. These are mid level positions and include a large number of those who have families and earn far less than the trades workers or politicians. These include men and women who for the vast majority are NOT trained in the trades, who may not want to be trained in the trades, who may not be suitable to the trades, who are not able to participate in a mobile workforce or who CANNOT due to familial or other reasons, such as child care issues. 
Darin, this PROCESS will eliminate my job as an Employment Counsellor, where I help numerous clients proceed through the job loss cycle, determine and overcome barriers to employment, assess eligibility for interventions, guide career exploration suitability and decision making, research the labour market information and counsel clients who are seeking employment. This PROCESS affects my clients and me, and as a single parent and the main bread winner, I will now be competing with countless others for the limited job opportunities that are in our area, many of those affected by this so-called PROCESS. I am currently NOT eligible for retraining, and even if I did, my child’s father already leaves for employment at sea, and therefore I CANNOT avail of any of the opportunities outside of my area in the trades. This PROCESS as you so loosely coined it are people’s LIVELIHOODS. 
The focus of our provincial government is on the HAVES of the provinces, the under taxed business owners, wealthy oil and gas conglomerates, definitely not the reality, which is the Have-Nots; the elderly, those on fixed incomes, single parents, rural communities, our fragile animal kingdom and environment and hardworking Newfoundlanders and Labradoreans.


Anonymous said...


This is the governments mo. They are afraid of debate. The government MHA's will engage in online discussion until the hard questions are asked. Then they disappear. People complain of lack of leadership... I disagree. I believe the government members are just not that smart.

Anonymous said...

Unreal that he would delete this, that shows how much integrity this Government has. He should have left it there we as Newfoundlanders have the right to have a voice. Deleting Facebook messages will not stop us from speaking out against this dictatorship. Great job Mrs.Riggs and shame on you Minister King I think you owe this lady an apology.

Driven to Ink said...

Loving how the PC's are repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot. By deleting this thread of discussion, King was only giving it more clout. Doesn't he know how Facebook/the Internet works? Once it's out there... Deleting won't help. More people will read this deleted discussion now thanks to King's fear of public criticism and his inability to back up his beloved "process".

tbaird said...

Right you are Driven to Ink. This post has been viewed 600 times.

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