tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post2802730930665054169..comments2018-08-15T11:54:49.313-02:30Comments on Occupy Newfoundland and Labrador: In Response to "De-Occupy NL"Jonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07415555531504843017noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-58554651601943738382012-05-03T09:57:22.831-02:302012-05-03T09:57:22.831-02:30Did you see us on May 1st? Did you hear about the ...Did you see us on May 1st? Did you hear about the global protests around May 1st that we took part in? <br /><br />http://occupynl.ca/2012/05/mayday-recap-at-harbourside-park-st.html<br /><br />You haven't read any of the documents on this site that tell what we're doing? Can't help you there. Up to you to open your eyes...occupiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-90439751309842986632012-04-10T14:29:37.187-02:302012-04-10T14:29:37.187-02:30what are you protesting? haven't seen you on t...what are you protesting? haven't seen you on the streets bringing your cause. <br />i did see a couple of fellas come out of the tents and skateboard for a while. is it skate parks you want?<br /><br />what a joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-48815641637190950582012-04-05T15:48:06.073-02:302012-04-05T15:48:06.073-02:30"Move on, everyone else has."
Not quite..."Move on, everyone else has."<br /><br />Not quite. The Occupy movements across Canada have remained active throughout the winter, and some have already re-occupied spaces in their city.<br /><br />With all due respect, where do you get the idea that you know exactly what we are, what we've done, and why we're here? I could give a length response, explaining in detail how your presumptions about us are inaccurate, but if you'd rather just make-believe then it wouldn't really be worth the effort.Gudahtthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15498970488491077185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-43549004398083199732012-04-05T13:29:47.738-02:302012-04-05T13:29:47.738-02:30Not everyone else has. You obviously do not have a...Not everyone else has. You obviously do not have a good sense of how precarious this all is...If you don't see any problem with how our society is run, feel free to stay home and watch TV. Everything is fine -- keep shopping , am I right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-51233741289465616302012-04-05T09:52:30.585-02:302012-04-05T09:52:30.585-02:30'without digging into root causes of problems&...'without digging into root causes of problems'? Oh, please. Occupy nl is nothing but a bunch of organic tree hugging hipsters using a US movement as justification for squatting in harbourside park, making a historic and beautiful area look like a dirty tent-city. What have you gained or accomplished? Diddly squat. Move on, everyone else has.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-67286262006615202022012-04-04T20:38:16.473-02:302012-04-04T20:38:16.473-02:30Maybe it's time for a venue change. Maybe City...Maybe it's time for a venue change. Maybe City Hall could suggest; or even offer a site with reasonable visibility. I think City Hall knows that they too are actually part of the 99%. As a NLer, I challenge City Hall to do something progressive in this matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-15343648381411549982012-04-04T15:03:35.570-02:302012-04-04T15:03:35.570-02:30ANARCHY IN NFLD!!!ANARCHY IN NFLD!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-40538700847172889972012-04-04T11:05:59.262-02:302012-04-04T11:05:59.262-02:30poster above JP;
Great herd mentality! You are th...poster above JP;<br /><br />Great herd mentality! You are the type of person that the government and financial sector loves! They can screw you over and over and you don't even notice. You go through life without digging deeper into root causes of problems, just hang out with the rest of the herd and bitch about this and that without every truly knowing what you are even talking about! I am in no way speaking on behalf of OccupyNL, these are my own opinions on Human Rights and Freedoms.@anonynewfienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-62553131056964290562012-04-04T10:31:41.531-02:302012-04-04T10:31:41.531-02:30At last commenter:
You remember what all the grow...At last commenter:<br /><br />You remember what all the grown-ups sounded like on the Charlie Brown Show? That's how you sound to me...JPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-74093228278502953462012-04-03T15:22:21.142-02:302012-04-03T15:22:21.142-02:30Good riddance. About time they got a notice.Good riddance. About time they got a notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-19198887058716778362012-04-03T01:55:08.099-02:302012-04-03T01:55:08.099-02:30I am so encouraged by this. Thank you for standing...I am so encouraged by this. Thank you for standing up, OccupyNL!! I'll be down to the park to see what's on the go. It's plain to me what Occupy is about -- it's really not that complicated, is it? Here's a whole blog about the underlying goals of OccupyNL and the direct action you've undertaken. This is just the beginning...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-27559303320607543312012-04-03T00:50:02.320-02:302012-04-03T00:50:02.320-02:30Not to mention the sense of community we have form...Not to mention the sense of community we have formed, the bonds made at the camp and the embracing of difference that can only happen when your face to face with each other. The sharing of opinions, knowledge, food, and Love. We Occupy<br />to take all the parts of society which have been compartmentalized and bring them back into awareness. A predatory growth based economy is causing trouble at an economic and environmental level. The occupy Movement is the springing back into consciousness of the things we have discarded. Its hard to get a handle for most on what it is Occupy is doing and what we stand for, this is only the beginning of a movement of inclusion. There is always a resistance to new patterns of imagination and a human resistance to change, we like to stay in a grove. Naturally as the movement grows there will be people who actively repress it because its threatening. Social change doesn't happen just threw persuasion, sound bites, facebook, and twitter. It happens by being face to face with others and making change by listening and dreaming together. This is what the camp does for us at Occupy Newfoundland. Thomas Clarke.Thomas Clarkenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-43809031077932367162012-04-03T00:48:10.232-02:302012-04-03T00:48:10.232-02:30Occupy represents the most vulnerable people in so...Occupy represents the most vulnerable people in society, those who are silenced and crushed down by a system that has no regard or compassion. This is a peaceful protest to highlight growing inequality and oppression. If you think there is nothing wrong with the world as you see it, fine. But if, like me, you see the cracks in the ideology, now is the time to stand up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-21051418123961141122012-04-02T22:37:02.123-02:302012-04-02T22:37:02.123-02:30@Anonymous
I don't recall that complaint being...@Anonymous<br />I don't recall that complaint being made. What people seem to not realize is we had the consent of City Hall. Using power doesn't require a permit, it's on public ground. We had made contact with the city, they were aware we used the power, and it wasn't an issue. We consumed very little power anyway; just a couple of lightbulbs and laptops.<br /><br />It only became a problem during winter. They feared the cord would be a problem for the plow, though it wasn't, as we had worked out an arrangement with the plow operators already by that point. It had been fine for months, but suddenly it was cut without warning.<br /><br />So now we run on solar power instead, which was the plan from the start anyway.<br />We didn't make a big deal about the power being cut. It was announced, and people came to us asking questions. We found another solution.<br /><br />Regarding a details explanation of what we're about, that's a fair request. But it's a complicated question, because of the nature of this organization. Every major decision made by the group has to be passed via consensus (90% or more in favor) at a General Assembly. Our specific goals can theoretically change any week.<br /><br />Generally speaking, the movement arose to seek social and economic justice. But the group that formed to deal with this problem is capable of much more than that; we fill a very specific niche in this society. We help provide an alternative method of representation in government, to facilitate participation in government.<br /><br />Basically, this society may be a democracy in the most basic sense. It is run by the people, via representatives that they elect. But as to how accurately these representatives reflect the will of the people... here's where we're not as democratic as I'd like.<br /><br />Our electoral system is one of the main culprits. As a "winner-takes-all" voting system, in First Past the Post only the winner's vote in each specific riding is counted towards deciding how the people are represented. Those that voted for losing candidates are ignored, unrepresented. Note that this doesn't have to be, the vast majority of democratic countries use proportional voting systems, which ensure that everyone's vote has equal weight in deciding on a country's representatives.<br /><br />FPTP encourages a two-party system, it gives large parties a huge advantage over smaller ones (thus discouraging new parties), and it encourages strategic voting. There's an awful lot more to this particular topic if you're interested to know more.<br /><br />Once the candidates are elected, it's impossible to get their attention. We're encouraged to write letters, and sign petitions, as if these are the only options available to us for giving our opinion on how the government should be run. That's not enough, we want our voices to be heard. We want the government to act for the people, in the best interests of the people, not for special interests and for-profit corporations. Our current political system isn't good enough at representing people, so we're supplementing it. Because of our structure, we are well suited to help Canadian citizens take part in our democratic system.<br /><br />Even if our system of representation was better, it can't be perfect. Alternate organizations like us are healthy in a democracy, to ensure people have a means to express their opinions, and make real change in their communities. And our consensus decision-making system ensures only the best ideas get passed; ill-prepared or proposals that aren't well thought out are tabled and sent back to the workgroup or person that's working on it for improvement. The specific structure of our organization is flexible as well, so if we identify problems with how we're run we have the ability to adapt.<br /><br />Some of the specific causes we've addressed are listed above. I can think of more examples if you'd like.Gudahtthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15498970488491077185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-12453705711417790472012-04-02T21:24:21.526-02:302012-04-02T21:24:21.526-02:30"You people" Nice. Sick embarrassment? A..."You people" Nice. Sick embarrassment? At least they have the guts to show their faces and not hide behind a computer. Coward. @ AnonymousTJ4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-74631869695361604642012-04-02T21:20:04.174-02:302012-04-02T21:20:04.174-02:30Then when you have watched that one go check this ...Then when you have watched that one go check this movie "Oh Canada: Our Bought and Sold Out Land".<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi_UKzJ9Y8k<br /><br />Then come on back, or hit me on Twitter and we can have a good educated discussion.@anonynewfienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-38429117994967013182012-04-02T21:10:38.766-02:302012-04-02T21:10:38.766-02:30Watch the movie "Inside Job" so you are ...Watch the movie "Inside Job" so you are not blind to what is really going on around you. Educate yourself on what is taking place globally. Don't think that just because we live in NL we are "protected" from what is taking place. He who does not educate himself on what he does not know and then tries to speak on the subject is the true "sick embarrassment". Here is a link to the movie;<br />http://www.filmsforaction.org/Watch/Inside_Job_2010/<br />Do yourself a favour and educate yourself and get some damn manners!@anonynewfienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3685548281248485447.post-91143465816646096122012-04-02T19:44:33.372-02:302012-04-02T19:44:33.372-02:30I would like a real explanation of what you're...I would like a real explanation of what you're fighting for. We have it really good here in newfoundland and the only thing I've seen out of your camp is complaints that you guys can't plug in your laptops?<br /><br />Rough life. You people are a sick embarrassment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com